Dimensions 1 – Heavenly Coordinates

Representation of the first four dimensions. (Wickipedia)

Representation of the first four dimensions. (Wickipedia)

“In physics and mathematics, the dimension of a space or object is informally defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify any point within it.”¹   It seems clear then, that God being infinite and eternal, or beyond time, would necessitate infinite “coordinates” to be defined.   By definition, in-finite, cannot be defined.   Hence He exists in infinite, un-limited dimensions.   Can we not say that the entire Bible is a document from beyond time and space attempting to give sufficient “coordinates” in order to reveal God Himself to a people trapped in only a few dimensions?

If our senses were limited to perceiving only a two-dimensional reality having only width and height, what would we understand of the three-dimensional world we coexist with?   Would a square express anything of what a cube is? When a sphere came through our perceived world, we would witness a point, then a growing circle, a shrinking circle, and finally a point that disappeared immediately. We would insist that spheres are circles, and we would make up a mathematics and geometry that is capable of explaining only two-dimensional phenomena.   This is the premise of a classic book written by Edwin Abbott, appropriately titled, “Flatland.

Now consider yourself as a three-dimensional being, trying to explain to those Flat-landers all about the world you live in, and how your world interpenetrates theirs. You would attempt to explain reality as you know it – an arguably “deeper”, richer reality – in words that might be understandable to the Flatlanders.   You would reach in to their world to demonstrate your love for those beings, and every time, they would consider the event a miracle from another world.

Doesn’t that pretty much characterize the Bible?   A document by a many-dimensional creator to people stuck in a three-dimensional reality (plus time)who don’t have much of a chance to really understand him.   How would you explain that you are beyond time, in this reality you call eternity?   How would you explain that they have freedom to believe him or not, but that you knew/know/will know what they did, are doing and will do.   Can you just imagine the wild theories about freedom, or lack thereof?   A group calling themselves Calvinists would venture that because you, the creator, knew before a man chose to believe you, you could never undo the choosing.   Another group would venture that man has ultimate freedom to choose and to un-choose.   All the while, your explanations would seem ambiguous and contradictory because there are not enough coordinates in a two-dimensional world to explain fully a three-dimensional world.

One of the greatest leaps in scientific understanding occurred in 1905 when Einstein added the fourth dimension to his thinking and conceived of the theory of relativity.   In one fell swoop, man’s awareness transcended the laws of Newtonian physics and Euclidean geometry to embraced a world in which time and space are as elastic as a rubber band.

Today theoretical physicists and quantum physicists seem to agree that our world exists in about ten dimensions.   They seem to agree that we can only detect about 5% of the mass in the universe.   Is it not clear that there is a reality out there… and in here?… that transcends what our five senses can detect?

¹ Wikipedia: see “Dimensions”

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About Franco Guerri

Born and raised in Rome Italy; immigrated to the US at ten; UC Berkeley activist during the Vietnam antiwar era; Hollywood assistant cameraman and film editor; spent the next few years seeking God, praying and meditating in France and the US; married 30 years to a beautiful artist/designer wife with whom he co-labors; two amazing sons; post graduate studies in engineering and Bible; discovered God as a personal relationship and the Cross as the bridge to Him; started and managed two successful manufacturing businesses in California and Montana. Now residing in Longmont, Colorado, close to his two sons and their families. Among other endeavors, he is writing a movie script about an Iraq war veteran who loses both his legs in the war.
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14 Responses to Dimensions 1 – Heavenly Coordinates

  1. yellowyarrow says:

    Thanks for the suggestion about the film. Also, thanks for the blog (and to Richard Barker for putting you on HIS blog…otherwise I may not have discovered you)

  2. To the Calvinists and other groups I could add those awe-struck scientists who think our existence and that of the universe is a ‘simulation’ or form of ‘virtual reality’. (Eg. see my covering remarks to this reblog > https://richards-watch.org/2017/02/21/its-in-the-information/ – and to which I had an interesting reaction against my refc to Gen 1’s ‘God said’ from a reader. The day after my replying specifically on it being the creation of all electromagnetic and dark energy I got good confirmation of that, as in the outcome of an Irish seer’s vision re Daniel 2:22 as in this post > https://richards-watch.org/2017/02/23/veronica-west-an-invitation-to-enter-the-doorway-of-divine-destiny/

    My, how our Lord moves in a mysterious way,His wonders to perform!

  3. Reblogged this on Richard's Watch and commented:
    Now and again along our journey we’ve mulled over the meaning of time and the likelihood of scripture and science meeting over the horizon. Here, Franco Guerri brings a clear, concise introduction to dimensions and relates them to the Bible. In particular, his insight on the Cross and infinity is most noteworthy (see reply to Tim Shey).

    • Thanks so much for re-blogging a couple of these posts. It almost feels as good having people read these as it does when I write them. I know the Holy Spirit – our cosmos-wide search engine – is involved or it woulddn’t feel so good to sit at a computer and write. I write in hope that even just one person would move just a bit closer to embracing the Father/Son/Holy Spirit being who “knitted” us in our mother’s womb.

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  5. Tim Shey says:

    I reblogged this on my High Plains Drifter blog.

  6. Tim Shey says:

    This is a great post. You explain dimensions very well.

    This is from my High Plains Drifter blog:

    Time, Timelessness and Jesus Christ

    “Only through time time is conquered.”
    –T.S. Eliot

    This is a comment I left on the blog Richard’s Watch:

    When I think on the word “saved” (as in, “I was saved twenty or thirty years ago” or “when were you saved?” and so on), as a Christian, it is probably an incorrect word or concept. To be saved implies the past. The Lord Jesus Christ is past, present and future. As a Christian, I abide in Christ right here right now.

    Let’s say someone surrendered their life to Christ a number of years ago. This is the BEGINNING of being connected with the timelessness of Jesus Christ. As we take up our cross and die daily, our body and soul life are put to death, so that the spiritual life within us (Christ) grows stronger and stronger every day. As the passions of the body and soul life die, time dies. Think of the sinful, physical body as shackled to time: the physical body is born on a certain date (time), it lives for 85 years (time) and then dies on a certain date (time).

    There is a point in physical time when someone surrenders to timelessness—the Lord Jesus Christ. Worldly people and lukewarm Christians are still bound to time; spiritual Christians are timeless.

    The power and beauty of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is that that timeless event (it defied time and space) pierced human time and presented us with the possibility of living a life connected to timelessness and sinlessness (abiding in Christ)—if we act in faith and surrender our lives to Jesus Christ.

    I John 1: 7: “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

    The above scripture absolutely implies, not some historical event (time), but the timelessness of Jesus Christ. To an unbeliever, the phrase “and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin” is totally insane: the death of Jesus Christ happened over two thousand years ago (time). To a Christian, what happened at Calvary is happening right here right now (timelessness). If we walk in the light (abide in Christ daily), the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us (not cleansed us) from all sin.

    Enoch walked with God and then God took him because (after many years of obeying the Lord through proper blood sacrifices [dying to self] and believing in the future Messiah) he walked in timelessness and eventually timelessness (God) took him. Enoch was no longer shackled by time.
    Prophets are very timeless because the timeless Holy Ghost inspires them to speak of future events as if they are happening right here right now.

    Time to stop writing.

    • Tim, your following my blog truly honors me. Really like your ideas on the timelessness of the cross. A long time ago as I was just starting to study the Bible, I “saw” a time line and on it a cross marking the year 33 ad. And superimposed over it the symbol for infinity — a figure eight on its side. It was a moment of understanding just the very concept you’re explaining. The cross is indeed not merely temporal, but eternal. Actually the incarnation as a whole is an interpenetration of our time-space continuum by God from other dimensions. Fun to ponder eternity! Blessings Tim.

    • yellowyarrow says:

      Very interesting reply…and possibly one by which an atheistic scientist might be able to begin to grasp the realities of God (even though He is invisible and untestable by normal scientific methods.) It seems to me that the more scientific understanding grows, the more it makes sense re God and eternity.
      People often talk about ‘the God of the gaps’. That is, believers impute gaps in our knowledge, or seemingly miraculous things, to an imginary being we call ‘God’. However, I point out to them that I believe God created everything, all that we do see and understand, also all the things that we have yet to understand.
      And the more our knowledge of things grows, the more (to my mind) it fits in with God and His creative ability…and God actually seems more possible by the minute, so to speak…that is, it confirms more and more what we already believe

      • YellowArrow, “Something unknown to us is by definition random and unpredictable. Scientifically, whatever appears random and unpredictable is so because of our ignorance.” The more we come to know about God, the more He makes sense. From Dimensions 2 – Randomness and Ignorance. Thanks for visiting the blog.

      • yellowyarrow says:

        Thanks for your reply to me. I will make sure to read ‘Dimensions 2 – Randomness and Ignorance.
        I am not a scientist but am fascinated with what scientists come up with (as far as I have time to read anything, or indeed, comprehend). Chaos theory is really interesting I think…and I think that, whatever we don’t understand so far, if only scientists can get to working out more, then they will find that what seems random or inexplicable at present, makes absolute sense.
        God may be a ‘mystery’, but so is much of what science has not yet discovered or worked out LOL
        Personally, I am not sure whether God created via evolution or otherwise. But I believe that, if He did, He had it all planned, rather like those huge domino ‘pictures’, if you’ve ever seen them on TV. Where they set up hundreds of dominos in a particular pattern and when they push the first one over, it proceeds to push over all the others to create the picture.
        So, as Scripture says, He spoke everything into being, and it came about in whatever way He had decided, planned and willed.

      • You may like to see the new movie, Is Genesis History? I believe it will have a last showing at theaters March 7, but I’m sure it will be available to purchase. It’s a good attempt at elucidating the two opposing views, evolution and Biblical creation. The two are not consistent because evolution is based on an unprovable theory that the world took billions of years to “evolve”. Science does not work if you base all your theorizing on an unproven conclusion. Again, thanks so much for reading.

  7. Pat Cantori Sullivan says:

    This was awesome! I think it has to be one, if not THE, favorite blog you’ve written! Not sure why, because I’ve loved them all, but your brilliance just shines through in this one. I’m going to pass it on to some dear friends. I love you and keep on being the hands and feet of Jesus…He’s counting on YOU! Your SFAM

    Sent from my iPad

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  8. Patrizia Cantori-Sullivan says:

    This writing is wonderful…and my favorite to date. Well written and a fresh look at how little we humans can truly perceive. GREAT ARTICLE, FRANCO!!!

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